As promised, this is our first Bonus Episode! In episode 5 you heard a much-shortened version of Dave Solimini’s interview with Rose Jackson. Rose was Chief of Staff at the State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor and before that spent years as a practitioner, working around the world on these issues. There was so much packed into our discussion that we decided to make the whole interview available. It dives pretty deep into how foreign aid funding helps protect human rights around the world, the tensions between long-term and short-term American interests, and how “promoting human rights and governance” plays out in practical, real-world, terms.